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Hi Andy - your email made me wish I’d taken some ‘after’ photos as the before was quite dramatic (I decided to rewrap loom) but I can’t be bothered to take the tank off again! Apologies.
The bike is a 1966 Triumph 5TA which I've been using as a daily hack for last 10 years with bare minimum of servicing (1% of the time that goes into my T140😆) and was running its original points until oil seal failed a few weeks back. Decided to upgrade ignition. I had a Boyer 4 fail on my T140 last year (it had been fine for 15+ years to be fair) and decided to go for a Pazon coz of its tolerance of lower battery voltages. Nicer looking quality of product than Boyer and super easy to fit. Did one on a mate’s T140 and now the 5ta.
Without wishing to blow smoke the improvements are much more noticeable on the 500 as the old points/backing plate had very limited adjustment.
The Pazon has improved combustion, my spark plugs are picture perfect, but it’s the smoothness that impresses most - a much more enjoyable ride.
Wish I hadn’t been so stubborn and made the switch years ago!
Regards and thanks again Matthew
1966 Triumph 5TA
Andy
I just received and installed the Pazon ignition kit for my Vincent today and I am hugely impressed. Good stuff.
I haven't yet had the bike out for a full on evaluation but so far it is a major improvement.
I have to say that setting the timing was the easiest thing ever, but you already know that! I have attached a couple of photos of my 1950 Vincent Series C Rapide.
The bike is fully 12 volt converted and I was running a Lucas breakerless ignition which I have just replaced with the Pazon unit.
The entire ignition system is fitted inside the magneto cover on the front of the engine.
It has a V3 clutch, Shadow brakes, and high compression pistons.
I have also ordered a 1200cc top end conversion from Terry Prince as the bike is due for a cosmetic tidy up anyway.
Best regards,
Holger Lubotzki, Australia
1950 Vincent Rapide Series C
I received your ignition system and installed it following the excellent instruction supplied. I don't think anyone could make it easier to time then you have made it.
The Vincent starts easier and runs so much better than it did with the original Mag or the BTH replacement that I also tried.
From the photos you can see the main unit behind the battery, the coil is on the side of the engine under the front carb, the ignition switch is between the speedo and tacho and I was able to attach the tacho drive to the locked atd.
Everything is running great and I look forward to many years of riding.
Thanks for making such a wonderful product.
Jim
Andy
I want to tell you how impressed I am with your ignition module.
If you remember, I recently contacted you inquiring about the correct timing to use on a Royal Enfield Series One Interceptor.
I was wanting to use a degree wheel to locate and mark true TDC and 32 degrees BTDC.
I ran out of patience and just used the measuring stick in the spark plug hole method.
The machine I installed your ignition on was not a running machine needing just an ignition change.
I have built three Interceptors from basket cases (auto jumbles?) and have found the drum brakes on every one just good enough to get one killed in today's traffic!
The machine I installed your ignition on is a machine I have built from leftover parts after restoring two Series one and one Series one A Interceptors.
I have installed the entire front end plus the rear swing arm/rear wheel/ rear disc brake from a Honda 750 Super Sport (three disc brakes) on a Series one Royal Enfield Interceptor.
I have completely rebuilt the engine: new main bearings, crankshaft turned .020 under, new rod bearings, cylinders re sleeved, bored and honed, new pistons and rings, new hardened valve seats, new valves, springs and guides, new timing chain, new cam followers and blocks.
The only friction surfaces in the motor not renewed were the camshafts, cam bushes, push rods, rocker arms, and rocker spindles and bushes.
In other words a re-manufactured engine!
This engine starts with tickling the new manufactured Amal Monobloc carburettor (from Surrey Cycles in England), putting on the choke, and kicking the m***** f***** one time!
Now I must claim some credit as a tuner since I had to advance the ignition timing a tiny bit to get the engine to idle, but I can not believe how smooth this thing idles in neutral on the center stand with a grand total of ten minutes of running time.
I will recommend your ignition to anyone wanting to replace a magneto or points and coil on any British motorcycle.
Andy, you know your shit!
John Sayers
U.S.A.
Royal Enfield Series 1 Interceptor Custom
Royal Enfield Series 1 Interceptor Custom
Royal Enfield Series 1 Interceptor Custom
Royal Enfield Series 1 Interceptor Custom
Andy,
Thanks for the quick reply.
Your endorsement of the coils makes me feel much better.
All is good.
I installed my new Pazon Sure-Fire ignition along with the coils this past weekend.
Can't believe what a difference this setup has made in my bike's performance!
The installation was so easy, and the static timing was so close (29 degrees), I only had to move the ignition plate just a FRACTION to get it set at 31 degrees.
Fantastic!
Start-up is one-kick now, idle is rock-steady at 1000 RPM and the acceleration - unbelievable!!
In fact, the acceleration is so strong in 4th gear, I found myself looking for another gear a couple of times because I swore I was still in 3rd!!
Thanks again for a fantastic product!!
Here's a photo to go along with my testimonial.
Chip Messenkopf
Norton 750 Commando
Andy:
The first battery I used was a traditional lead acid battery but I had some difficulty securely fastening it inside the stock battery box and it tended to move around, ultimately leading to the case cracking at the top. Not wanting to take any chances, I bought one of those absorbed glass mat batteries. I had the same problem with the battery moving around in the battery box and the battery case vibrated against one of the cover screws, wearing a small hole in the case.
They say that the AGM batteries are not supposed to leak acid but I can tell you that they do leak.
I've played around with different methods to secure the battery but these Atlases are real paint shakers!
I am using your Sure Fire magneto replacement system. I am also using a Sparx electronic regulator. I am not sure if this has a built in capacitor.
If it does, are you saying that I can simply remove my battery ? Do you happen to know of any wiring diagrams that I could follow to do this?
Thanks for the reply. I have to say that I'm extremely pleased with your product. Ditching my magneto was the best performance modification I've done to this bike.
It starts first kick now and goes like stink. See picture below.
Best,
Chris
CA, U.S.A.
1964 Norton Atlas
You know what, it started 1st kick. I had to turn it off and try again.
It's started 1st time every time ever since.
The points are now on the wall in homage to the Dark Lord Lucas and as something to point and laugh at.
It's a custom. 1967 T100 Daytona
Stretched 8 inches, lowered 6 inches, reverse head, 10.5:1 comp, open pipes.
Daily rider.
Pic attached. Quote away.
Thanks heaps.
Darren Marchant
N.Z.
1967 Triumph T100 Daytona custom
I have just fitted a Sure-Fire ignition system to my 1967 Triumph TR6C Trophy and am amazed at how my bike has been transformed by such an easily installed modification.
I was not unhappy with my bike prior to fitting however it now starts first kick and is much smoother at higher revs, a most worthwhile and unexpected improvement.
Please feel free to use this as a testimonial if you so wish.
Regards,
Graham Ingall
U.K.
1967 Triumph TR6C Trophy
Hi Andy,
Have been using your new starter on my Mk 3 Interstate Commando for over a year, in conjunction with Pazon ignition.
Not one kickback and faultless starting every time.
This is a great product and I would thoroughly recommend to all elect start Commando owners.
Regards from New Zealand,
Neville Jordan
Hi Andy,
It has been a few months since I e-mailed you about my '65 BSA twin.
I wanted to get back to you and let you know how it worked out.
Your diagnosis about the coil was spot on.
As you suggested, I bought one of your dual output 6 volt units and installed it this weekend.
All problems were cured!
Bike starts better than ever. Has a very healthy spark.
And runs great, with no hint of it dying away at idle.
Now I can really enjoy the magic of your Sure-fire ignition. Well done - it is a super product!
I couldn't be happier!
Bob Ford
USA
Andy
What's wrong with my Sure Fire ignition on my BSA B50? It starts first kick and I don't have to kick it over really fast.
People keep telling me they should go to sleep and are slow to startup again, and they should have a slow speed module or they wont work with a B50.
I mean a B50 shouldn't start so easy and run so well, especially at low revs. On second thoughts I'll keep my "faulty" unit and put up with it.
Here is a photo of the bike:
BSA B50
I was able to fit the sensor unit without removing the timing cover.
I also connected a green light to the power feed of the unit so I know when the key is turned on and power is going to the unit.
Doug Clarke